• abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Kiwi farms? You mean the website that harrasses people online, Swats people, and basically does shit that is illegal in the UK anyway?

    Next you’ll tell me child porn sites are suing the UK. Fuck the Online Safety Act, but yeah, they’re not the people who should be suing the UK over this.

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      They don’t swat people. Mass swatter Torswats (which turned out to be a team of a few people) tried to blame it on them for a little bit, but was ultimately caught.

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        This person also denies that Musk did a Nazi salute. They argue in bad faith and are not worth listening to.

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          Been on kiwi farms. There is no “we’re swatting these guys” thread. And there is a very detailed and well-cited thread doxxing torswats and documenting and archiving the attempt to tie their actions to KF. You literally can just go read it. Please do. The Torswats/Alan Winston thread.

          No amount of “uhhhhh they’re untrustworthy and not all of them are left wing” is sufficient to beat the clear documentation. Because of his arrest, trial, and conviction, much of what is in the thread can also be verified by law enforcement sources. If you believe otherwise, you are a victim of internet misinformation.

          And yes, I still call bullshit on the made-up musk Nazi salute from the same political machine that brought us “everyone making Nazi salutes at the Palestine protests is fine, actually” as well as “if you sit at a table with a Nazi, then you’re a Nazi”.

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      Project 2025 and Curtis Yarvin have direct ties to 4chan as well. Maybe not the horse you wanna hitch to.

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          He’s the philosopher of choice for people like Peter Thiel and JD Vance. He advocates for moving to a neofeudalist system, arguing that democracy is a failed project. Beyond this, he holds some truly repugnant views that are woven throughout his ideology

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            As an ancap whose views have been called repugnant too, I say you could be more specific and say he’s racist, misogynist and mixes up social prowess, intelligence and wisdom, while these are three different things.

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              I still can’t believe ancaps are real lmao. It’s the most obviously flawed ideology o have ever seen.

              Just look outside and see that this but worse is a terrible idea.

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                It’s the most obviously flawed ideology o have ever seen.

                It’s the exact opposite. It’s the only one incorporating all the basic necessary principles.

                Which is why Cato institute is the only ideological authority which I can read without starting to curse.

                And I’m certain you don’t know shit about ancap just like every other person I’ve met saying this. Maybe you should LYAO over how you repeat one and the same statement on it never providing arguments. Laugh over yourself, you know.

                It’s the point which all decent ideologies approach. Left or right, doesn’t matter.

                If you don’t have private property, then you have group property, which in human nature means group leader’s property (and also decisions made in a group don’t make anything better, might read about Khmer Rouge, they didn’t have such a strict vertical hierarchy, the results were not nicer from that). If you don’t have non-aggression as a principle, then you make it acceptable to attack those you (or your group) decide to be wrong people (say, suppose you’re a white supremacist commune), and forfeit any moral justification of tolerance to your own ideology. If you don’t have natural law as a principle, then your ideology is self-contradictory and you’ll have violence as the main justification anyway (also see USA as a nation, all liberal and moralist around except when it’s about natives’ rights). If you don’t have personal responsibility and freedom of choice as a principle, then you erode any idea of obligation and decency, since obligations and decisions will be imposed by various jerks upon you left and right and you’ll learn to discard them. And if you compare imaginary heaven of some ideology to today’s real world and think that the result of such a comparison is an indicator of anything, you should see a therapist.

                Just look outside and see that this but worse is a terrible idea.

                This doesn’t mean anything. I pity you if it does for you.