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    9 days ago

    Republicans would be upset about Wikipedia being censored if they knew how to read.

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        There is an app called Kiwix if you use Linux (I think it’s a flatpak) or WSL for Windows! :) It lets you download different languages and sizes. I just learned you can use graphical apps for WSL now, wew.

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          That is cool WSL accomodates graphical apps, but after the recall Windows feature that snapshots everything, I’m about to remove Windows from my last computer that still has it. I really just need to figure out if my Steam save files will transfer to Linux since my Elden Ring character is level 220 or something crazy. I can’t even use WSL at work any longer because security locked us out of admin permissions. Boooo!

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            They absolutely should, if not, you can probably run it in a VM shame box. I have a little windows set up on mine for some specialist apps. When games are installed via Proton on Linux, they usually are set up to mimic the file structure for windows.

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              I am running Arch with Hyprland, and I have not had any issues with games yet. I have not even tried Proton yet. Maybe it is because they are supported on Linux. I can not remember though.

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                Proton works just as well as native, so even if the saves are not compatible with the native version, you’ll be able to copy the files into the proton structure.

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          Could I use this to set a monthly job that runs and updates my local copy? Does it download/update changes made since my last sync or would it just redownload and replace the previous months in this situation?

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            I just downloaded the 23G file or whatever. If there is a way to checksum portions of it and run a script against the online checksum to detect differences, that might be one way. The only problem is that it is now being modified for political purposes. This version might be the best we will ever get. I almost wish we could download a pre-2020 version. It would eliminate both the slop and any influence that came after the sudden wealth gap increase that occurred during the pandemic.

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    Fyi everyone: you can download the entirety of Wikipedia yourself from kiwix and it’s only about 50gb for the whole thing, 100 with all images.

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    Quick question, honest question…

    At what point are the right happy?

    Because the left will be happy when everybody has equal rights, and a high standard of living for everyone.

    So, if that’s the lefts benchmark of a great society, what’s the right fighting towards? Money? Power? Control?

    Then what?

    When is America “great again”?

    Because they’ve been pushing that slogan since the 80s. What’s the endgame here?

    Because from where I’m sitting, there is no endgame. Nothing will ever make them happy. Nothing will ever be good enough. So what the fuck is the point?

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      Happiness is not shared as a goal. For some people, happiness is so distant, the only thing achievable is to make everyone else equally misérable. Think Fundie Christians talking about the Valley of Tears.

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      Fascism, as an ideology, is utterly fascinating to look at sometimes. It strikes so many wildly different mental chords that you can get lost trying to understand the minds of its believers and followers without even trying to, all while just drinking your morning coffee.

      At what point are the right happy?

      To answer this, it is utterly critical to mention that Fascism, as an ideology, is fundamentally predicated upon the idea that the Fascist “In-Group” is better than whatever “Out-Group” they are focused on at any given moment (Jewish people, LGBT+, Black people, Mexicans, etc.). To that end, they will stop at NOTHING to crush, oppress, exterminate, and ultimately obliterate that Out-Group completely, all the while screaming to their fellows and to anyone that will listen that the Out-Group is simultaneously infinitely weak and easy to crush, as well as insurmountably strong and impossible to resist. This contradiction allows them to drive themselves into a frenzy, by pissing each other off, as well as draw in new recruits who hear about the Out-Group as “weak” and decide they want to get in on it. Meanwhile, anyone who thinks deeper about this contradiction more easily writes off their movement as sloppy, reactionary, and ultimately harmless, since they clearly don’t know anything, letting them amass real public support under the radar for DECADES; we’ve seen this in America, with Fox News doing tons of heavy lifting for almost 50 years now in the Fascist PR department. It WORKS.

      Once the In and Out-Groups are established, and public support starts to amass, the Fascists move to take public office, often starting in smaller, local elections that nobody runs for, elections that they can get a bunch of their buddies in the In-Group to vote for. Once they achieve public office, they try to continue ascending the public ranks to further their group’s political legitimacy, often forming alliances and coalitions with other right-wing and conservative groups to garner additional support in the legislature. For a historical example, the actual Nazis did this in Weimar Germany, starting as a fringe group in local elections, slowly climbing the ranks and gathering support, and ultimately working with other conservatives to seize power. Once sufficiently embedded in the system, they start purging members who aren’t sufficiently zealous and loyal to the In-Group, now a Political Party, and continue raging about the Out-Group, but on a state-side, or even national scale.

      At this point, several things can happen. If there isn’t strong enough leadership in the party, it can splinter into a bunch of factions that hate each other, but still work together because they hate the Out-Group more. If there IS strong leadership in the Party, then they tend to make a mad grab for power, and consolidate it as much as they can. We saw this with Jan 6, Germany saw it with The Night of The Long Knives. Should this fail, the whole Party may very well self-destruct from infighting.

      Now, you may ask, “what does any of this have to do with my question???” Remember, the entire time they’ve been climbing the political ladder, they’ve been raging at the Out-Group constantly, whipping themselves ever higher into a frenzy, garnering more and more support as they gather legitimacy in local elections. And now that they’ve made their mad grab for power, should it succeed, they can actually ACT on all their rhetoric that more rational, level-headed people wrote off at the beginning.

      It starts with outright oppression, the boot of the state on the neck of the masses, usually focused on the Out-Group, but everyone feels it. Then it escalates, usually into mass-confinement and deportation of the Out-Group, while the oppression on everyone else gets worse. But as the rhetoric never ends, so too must the escalation; Extermination. Once the suffering and deportation of the Out-Group isn’t enough, always they turn to extermination. And once the Out-Group is gone…

      Well, they’ll just find a new one. And another. And another. Over and over, until there’s only one group left, after all the purging and expulsion and deportation and death - the In-Group. But they won’t stop there. No, they keep going, denoting various internal factions as the Out-Group, targets to purge and exterminate. Constantly, accelerating as the numbers get smaller, until the whole Party explodes.

      So. To answer your question, the Right will NEVER be happy, no matter how hard or how many Out-Group members they purge and exterminate. Because Fascism doesn’t have an endpoint where the In-Group “”“wins”“”. The entire ideology is fundamentally predicated on that singular idea, that the In-Group is better than the Out-Group, and the Out-Group MUST be destroyed, no matter what, and any questioning of that directive brands you a traitor to the Party and a member of the Out-Group. They’ll continue down that road, purging and screaming and oppressing and exterminating until the only thing left is a room of Party leader corpses full of bullets from each other’s guns. Or until they’re stopped. Whichever comes first.

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          When it’s stripped down to its bare essentials, yeah. They’re a cult founded on internalized hatred and externalized rage; if there’s no external target for that rage, it turns inward, and the whole thing self-destructs.

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      Once they’ve dismantled all progress made towards equality, and they control all the resources again.

      People think this is a new fight, but it’s really the same one that we’ve been fighting forever. We just got too comfortable, and thought we couldn’t lose so much progress so quickly.

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      I think they are trying to go back to before they were grown up and had to deal with adult issues. They idolize their innocent childhood and some how associated that as the time when America was great. They find it really confusing that the child’s perspective of that time window was flawed. They also find it confusing that different age conservatives all imagine a different time window for when life was good.

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      In his essay, Umberto Eco is correct in his assessment that fascists will never be satisfied until they get rid of all of they hate, and achieve their own absolution and realization of their power fantasies, a world shaped by their warped concepts of purity and ego-driven heroism.

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          Honestly I wouldn’t expect Kluxers and normal old world fascists to understand each other. One of them is about race, the other is usually about cultural and ideological divisions. Even if the latter use race as one excuse to murder someone en masse, it’s not the core of their ideology, the core is that they should be able and need to practice to murder someone en masse. While American racists are something extremely weird.

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        Holy shit. I’m bad at telling if AI is obvious sometimes. Is this real? It has swastikas (obviously) but it also has the american flag.

        Is this 1930s? Or 2020s?

        God. The fact I even have to ask is in itself a reflection of where we are as a society I guess.

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      They can’t be happy. The whole platform is to take the country back to before all of society started conspiring against the poor republican voter.

      The big lie is that the dog can never catch the car because it isn’t trans people or immigrants or minorities that are oppressing republicans. It’s their politicians, the corruption that is ingrained into the system, and the rich that fight to keep the system rigged that are oppressing them and clearly republicans will never fix that

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        Pretty much this. The moment they actual reach end-game they’ll tear themselves apart. Fascism requires an enemy to survive. If there’s none available, they’ll turn inwards and cannibalize.

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      Extremists are never satisfied, they always want more. They are basically stuck on a stupid loop and just jump to the next demand when they get what they want.

      We even have a special name for the current crew. They are called white extremists.

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      They are already happy. The point of all this is to keep people ignorant and the working class divided- and they are getting straight A’s in that department.

      If you mean the people who blindly go along with whatever ‘conservative’ politicians tell them then never, because of the previous point. There will always be a scapegoat to blame, to keep them mad, to distract from the Billionaires draining their pockets and eroding their rights. Immigrants, leftists, women, minorities, lgbt people… anyone who is different so they can play on these peoples xenophobia.

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      I do tech support on a global company, and some customers have started to demand their cases not to be readable for our usa based colleagues, nor the shared info hosted on usa clouds. So that wall is somewhat already there.

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        Understandable. I kinda wish the UK would copy the EU’s move for digital sovereignty and invest in FOSS/Self Hosted shit but the OSA has kinda made me a bit worried about that. You could get it past the Flag Shaggers easy though.

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        Canadian here. Most of our data is stored by American companies, even if they’re physically located in Canada. And as Microsoft recently admitted, American law supercedes our data and privacy rights. So effectively the US has ownership of our government, education, and health records.

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      well it’s already happening. look what recently happened in Mississippi with age verification.

      protip if you’re American and you ask “how long until America has such and such” chances are, 9 times out of 10, it’s already happening or has happened and you’re just not aware.

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    They’re butthurt their changes to Wikipedia about Israel got removed for no citations.

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    Ever since Covid19 I heard people saying “Wikipedia is not objective”. Initially, a hard argument to go against, but my ultimate answer is this:
    Encyclopedia Britannica is not objective either. No *pedia is, online or otherwise. Nothing is. And still Wikipedia is one of the best options out there, not lastly because of how it’s organised. [That said, it does have - usually right-wing - strong bias in places, esp. non-English content which would need more eyes.]

    I’m not surprised this is now mainstream MAGA speak.

    I just hope Wikipedia is still international enough so that its content is ultimately out of the US government’s reach.

    They already have Conservapedia (click and weep), let them enjoy and contribute to it!

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      This has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with their fascist attempts to rewrite history

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    Not bias, but I was surprised to find out how Wikipedia is censoring information surrounding ChrisChan.

    All of the articles mentioning him in English just say he’s an internet personality, and his English Wikipedia page has been removed.

    That kind of censorship doesn’t sit will with me. What else are they keeping from us?

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      This is to stop a cyberbullying campaign against a disabled person

      That kind of censorship doesn’t sit will with me. What else are they keeping from us?

      probably other things to harrass individuals with?

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        Yeah, no.

        It’s still censorship even if the person in question wants it to be censored.

        People shouldn’t get to dictate whether or not wikipedia articles are made of them.

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              for the same reason they don’t give resources to blatant harassment campaigns.

              both are against the rules and both are censorship for nearly identical reasons

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                  My point was that censorship is valid when it is to prevent harming individuals/fraud/bullying

                  my goalpost did not move at all.

                  you are being a hypocrite by saying it was okay not to have that on wikipedia because it was already banned

                  you should oppose that ban on the basis of censorship, no?