• Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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      13 hours ago

      Turns out that as long as you turn off the dumb features, you’re not sending all that much.

      Those users kept the feature turned on. I spoke out against that shit when it happened on Reddit. But turns out users who disabled the dumb features in their profile never had those emails sent. I never saw the email as an example… and my subset of 5-6 users that I think I had at the time… I distinctly remember 2 of them talking about how they never got one either… Turns out that I could reliably use that email to show the other 2-3 users that they need to turn off those flags.

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      Were the big sections I believe… But that was a couple years ago at this point and I might be misremembering.

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        I’d still say it qualifies as a huge example of “evidence of privacy problems with Plex.” It certainly informs the community on Plex the company’s perspective on privacy and what a user’s expectations should be.

        They chose to make that email and feature opt-out and after the fact.

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          12 hours ago

          I understand and agree.

          However it’s far easier for me to tell people how to setup their plex profile than it is for me to support infrastructure that they’d have to use to access jellyfin securely.

          But to be frank on both jellyfin and plex, the end user never had privacy from the server owner. So talking about user’s expectations is completely different world of discussion than a server owners expectation of privacy.

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            I was only speaking to your question upthread. It sounds like you do agree with me that Plex does have a history of concerning privacy decisions. This one even directly affected users sharing your library.

            As to the rest I’m not here to sell you on Jellyfin. It’s the right platform for my needs and I’m very happy with it. I’m not one of the “run a pirate tv server for a group of my friends” users, so I don’t place any value on the features that keep you on plex.

            Open source will keep being open source. Every year seems to bring improvements to vpn technology and general consumer awareness of them. I have no doubt that Jellyfin will continue to close the gap, by all measures it is a popular and growing project. One day it may even be suitable for you.

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              I’m not one of the “run a pirate tv server for a group of my friends” users

              I hate this distinction… If you have jellyfin exposed without some other form of auth in front of it is the problem. It has nothing to do with friends or other users.

              Friends and other users make it hard to implement anything reasonable. If you’re running it strictly for yourself and have a vpn. Great. More power to you. But dropping Leaving this completely unrelated link to a better alternative here: https://jellyfin.org/ with no caveats as if it is a complete replacement for Plex is not the answer. Then when someone comes along and specifies why it’s not a good answer I get mobbed by the lemmy mob for pointing out why jellyfin is not as advertised (literally).

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                I hate this distinction… If you have jellyfin exposed without some other form of auth in front of it is the problem. It has nothing to do with friends or other users.

                Right. I don’t have Jellyfin exposed. Because I’m not trying to share its contents with anyone. That’s the distinction.

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                  12 hours ago

                  Okay… so you’re visiting family. And you want to watch something on their LG tv. What do you do?

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                    That’s not a situation I’ve ever faced, but imagining the hypothetical, I’d play it on my iPad and airplay/stream that to the TV.