More Swedes want to switch currency from the krona to the Euro, with support the highest it’s been since 2009, according to a survey by Gothenburg University’s SOM Institute.

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  • CAVOK@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    The government has to balance the budget anyway, and devaluing your currency is a bit like peeing your pants. It’s nice and warm for a bit and then increasingly uncomfortable.

    Inflation goes up, you see capital fights because you’re not a reliable currency, you increase your national debt, and you instantly make the entire population poorer than their neighbor countries.

    So while there are some benefits, most economists argue against it.

    I can’t say if Sweden going for the Euro is good or bad for Sweden, and there’s a paradox in asking people about it, because if the SEK is weak then support goes up, but it’s a bad time to join because of the low value, but if the SEK is strong then support goes down, although we’d be in a much position to join.

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      4 months ago

      The government has to balance the budget anyway.

      This is neoliberal dogma with bad consequences for the majority. While there are plenty of economists who subscribe to it, there are plenty others who don’t. Economics isn’t a well proven science and as a result there are giant gaps filled with unproven hypotheses. While the primacy of budget balancing has been promoted by neoliberal economists since the 70s, evidence has been piling up against it for a while.

      Given that new money is created every time a private bank gives out a loan, the only real difference between the government having the ability to create new money or not is the difference between whether the government has to seek private capital (and pay interest on it) or not. Therefore removing the ability to print your own currency is simply shifting public policy power to private capital. Most people don’t have enough private capital to participate, therefore it’s an increase in the political power of a minority upper class including international actors. One result of this is private capital gaining the power to force austerity by not lending money in need, then profiting from that policy by buying up government services and operating them for profit, typically as monopolies. E.g. healthcare, power, water utilities. The demand for profit means price increases which means inflation.

      Therefore a responsible government should retain the ability to create its own currency, create it and destroy it by targeting metrics such as inflation and employment, not budget balances.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      Inflation can be controlled. Public spending creates money and taxation destroys it, ensuring the total supply of money doesn’t outstrip demand and cause inflaton. Without that sovereignty they can’t create or destroy money, they are subject to the whims of the currency bloc.

      It’s just another tool in the toolbox. Giving it up is foolish.

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        4 months ago

        While that’s certainly true, we also had businesses speculate against the Swedish currency in the early 1990s, driving up interest rates to over 500% for a few days in order to stop the outflow of capital.

        So there are arguments for adopting the Euro too. But like I said, I’m not informed enough to say which is better. It’s a very complex issue.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          How is that an argument for adopting the Euro? They stopped the outflow of capital in a couple days, and it’s been 30 years. Seems like it worked.

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            They could do it because we were a small currency, and it it didn’t quite work, at least not the way it worked before. The currency is now “floating” against other currencies which it wasn’t back then, and we had a recession at the time. I agree that Sweden would be giving up a few tools in the economic toolbox, but on the other hand it gains a few others. I can’t say which ones are more valuable because I’m not an economist. I suspect you’re not either.

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              4 months ago

              We should be able to have public debate about public policy. My opinion obviously doesn’t matter much, but the decision is ultimately in the hands of Sweden’s people - not economists.

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        4 months ago

        And the whims of large domestic and international private capital as the other source of money they can rely on in need.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          Domestic capital can be controlled.

          International capital is a problem, but financial imperialism isn’t an argument for surrender. It only hightens the need for sovereignty!