It should be blindingly obvious that nothing short of being assassinated will make Putin stop throwing his own people into this meat grinder. There are no diplomatic niceties here - he’s an international terrorist and a perfectly legitimate target. So let’s be completely open about that. I don’t care if it takes a Ukrainian commando team, a deeply planted CIA mole or a cruise missile. Putin. Needs. To. Die. And it should happen ASAFP.
With a declining population, this won’t make things any better
I guess Putin is betting on winning this war, so he can add Ukraine to Russias population and replace all the lost manpower.
Man. Those poor souls. Sent by some wanker who neither knows nor cares about them, just to die for some bullshit game. Their one chance to experience anything wiped out for eternity.
Yeah, all they got to show for it was pets nailed ro fences, rapes, exterminations of entire villages, theft, torture and murder of civillians. Not worth it.
Yeah to think about how many teenagers never got to actually live because of one psychopath treating life like a video game, and that is ignoring all the civilians who pointlessly died in this too.
Like if I think about how much has happened to me since I’m 18 it horrifies me that they never got to experience any of that.
and those Russians who were injured, maimed, or died for invading Ukraine, and occupying parts of it, were injured, maimed, or died for nothing.
And this is all because an old fart decided for a three day special operation. Truly disgusting.
Remember that means killed or injured, because in military terms a casualty is anyone that can’t fight tomorrow. Dead is usually 1/3 of casualties.
The UK ministry of defense has some additional numbers
That’s against a population of ~144 million, so with overlap:
- 0.70% of the population (1 in 143 people) have been killed or wounded
- 0.31% of the population (1 in 323 people) are permanent combat losses
- 0.17% (1 in 588 people) have been killed or are missing
After the war started, I took a look at russian demographics and according to the last statistics posted before the war, Russia was at around 22 million males between 18 and 40. We know that they are also recruiting older males, people from Donbas and Crimea and other countries. We know that a huge amount of russians left the country after the invasion. We do not really know how many and we do not know how many have returned due to visa issues etc.
1 million is a really, really big number
For comparison with wars that the US has been involved in - Deaths as percentage of total population
- 0.21% in the War of 1812
- 0.11% in WW1
- 0.39% in WW2
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Russia: President, our population is aging! We’re suffering from a brain drain and an isolated, undiversified economy that can’t exploit our vast natural resources in the long term! How should we address this!?
Putin: Rubs chin contemplatively. Why don’t we kill all our young men by invading our culturally similar neighbor, even if it goes bad? Oh, and kidnap and bomb a few children to make it look good on the international stage. Perhaps we should become a Chinese vassal like North Korea… Yes, do that.
Russia: flashbacks intensify
US: Looks on enviously. Looks at vast resources, aging population kept young by immigration, and friendly neighbors. Nods. Can we do that?
US Voters: Hold our beer!
Sorry (but not sorry), the war is indeed awful.
War… When powerful men send poor kids to kill poor kids for natural resources. We know what it’s good for.
“One of the most horrible features of war is that all the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
Three day special operation
Unbelievable in modern times.
Times that Russia never joined.
Times are never too modern for mass death and world war, that capacity remains with us.
Really?
The US invaded Iraq under flimsy pretexts, slaughtering half a million to a million civilians. Israel is committing genocide with the support of its Allies. The climate catastrophe is largely ignored by policymakers despite a century of science warning against it and increasingly stronger heat waves, droughts, forest fires, floods and other deadly events. China is threatening to expand militarily into neighboring countries. Iran will probably have to develop a nuclear deterrent soon to avoid a large scale invasion. Companies all over the world make shady dealings with warlord mass slaughtering slaves in their mines in Africa, be it for cobalt, nickle or gold. The same warlords are supplied with weapons from countries like France, Russia or the UAE. Almost all European countries are working towards totalitarian surveillance of their citizens every moves on a level that the GDR and other regimes of the past could only dream of.
The only thing that got modernized are the tools of barbarity.
The only thing that got modernized are the tools of barbarity.
Also Propaganda - Modern Propaganda is far more subtle and effective at covering the true depths of the depravity up and manufacturing popular consent for it using Entertainment crafted to show the aggressors in a positive light.
I’m talking about a nation who sacrifice 1mln of its citizens in 2020 in order to conquer something (almost nothing in this particular case), with its population not even reacting.
Russians are a fucking joke.
I mean usa isnt far behind, creating and maintaining poverty just so people join military so they can get a decent pay and ‘survive’ thats psychopathic
US never became a real modern country, no welfare = third world.
But Russia…mother of god. They don’t produce a fucking shit. People still believe the old bell “we are the greatest”. Vodka must be really cheap.
Us still 17nth in the hdi index anyway, you take away those small rich motherfuckers like Singapore and Switzerland, then is just some Euro countries, Japan and few others.
Russia is around 70 and digging, even Bulgaria does better. Everybody does better than Russia, even without oil and gas. It’s so it works in countries who have at least a quite decent government instead of a bunch of mafia guys (and US seems to be following soon).
Does “lost” mean died? Or also out of the war due to injuries?
The estimates are Casualties, which include injuries.
In an offensive war, generally speaking, casualties are usually estimated to be two to three injuries (moderate to severe) per death. Basically, a casualty is anyone who has sustained injuries that put them out of the fight either temporarily (a couple of hours+) or permanently.
If these numbers are correct*, we’re talking about roughly 250k to 333k killed, the rest being injured.
Source: It was a rule of thumb I learned eons ago in the army. I’m curious how accurate it is nowadays with irate drones violently shoving unlubed howitzer shells down your throat.
*: The official stance from Ukrainian intelligence is that these numbers have been visually confirmed. They are reasonably close to the estimates published by british intelligence, so while inaccuracies are to be expected due to the fog of war, it is probably the closest official number we’ll have until the war is over.
Both, killed and injured.
No wonder Russia is suspected of planning an attack on NATO. “Quick, look over there! Something else is happening other than our catastrophic fuckup you shouldn’t be seeing!”
They want to open up a second front?
If it isn’t obvious by now, dictators don’t have to make sense.
Gamblers always have to take a higher stake to clean the previous fuckup.
Wouldn’t this result in a significant increase in Russian casualties each day along with pushing Europe into a war economy as well. Unless China are going to directly join them in Europe as well. Taiwan will get invaded but are China going to bother about Europe?
Maybe that is the calculation China are going for. Russia lose heavily but distract Europe while they take Taiwan. After Russia will be comparably powerless and irrelevant to China as they have already served their purpose.
Testing to see if NATO will actually get US support. That’s what this is about.
Does Europe actually need US support against Russia? Probably means leaving Taiwan to China but if China are happy with that Russia can’t win against Europe.
Does anyone know how the Ukrainian losses compare? I couldn’t find them readily.
The official stance is that they’re not being released until after the war is over. But there are some indicators:
- A defensive force usually loses a lot fewer personnel
- There is plenty of evidence of russia using baiting/sacrificial assaults, one step removed from human wave attacks.
It is therefor reasonable to estimate that Ukraine has lost much fewer than russia.
Thanks for the explanation.
