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In a survey in June by the Forsa Institute, only 17 percent of Germans said they would defend their country if attacked.

      • ahornsirup@feddit.org
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        19 hours ago

        Defending ourselves and our allies may sadly be a necessity in the not too distant future. Thank Putin.

          • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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            18 hours ago

            An organized, disciplined military is more effective at defending against an organized, disciplined military.

            Something along the Swedish or Finnish model creates an effective home defense with limited capability for offensive action.

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              16 hours ago

              An organized, disciplined military is more effective at defending against an organized, disciplined military.

              That’s true. The thing is: defending what? The country? The government? The king? Going to war is trading my (relative) safety for theirs, and I’ve never been too fond of them really.

              • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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                16 hours ago

                I totally get that. I don’t like them either.

                If you ask most soldiers what they were fighting for they wouldn’t say those things. They’d say they were fighting for the guy next to them.

                I’d imagine if the Russians started rolling tanks down your streets it would hit different.

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            16 hours ago

            You are right, your indivudual chances of survival increase by not enlisting as a soldier. At the same time, our collective chances of survival (that includes your parents, children, etc) decrease when young people walk away from the fight.

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      18 hours ago

      Be my fucking guest! You and your children can go enlisting, I just have to do this thing and will be right behind you…