• pivot_root@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    “I literally lost my only friend overnight with no warning,” one person posted on Reddit

    It was meant to be satirical at the time, but maybe Futurama wasn’t entirely off the mark. That Redditor isn’t quite at that level, but it’s still probably not healthy to form an emotional attachment to the Markov chain equivalent of a sycophantic yes-man.

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      18 days ago

      I’m honestly surprised your’s is not the top comment. Like, whatever, the launch was bad, but there is a serious mental health crisis if people are forming emotional bonds to the software.

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        16 days ago

        Don’t their partners kind of die each time a new chat is made?

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          LLMs do seem to be able to store the chats and work with the old material in new conversations, requiring an account of course. Idk, I haven’t personally used any of them that extensively.

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    18 days ago

    “we fucked up our massive new generation product launch… oh well lets invest trillions in new data centers” How do investors keep falling for this shit.

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      17 days ago

      How indeed. It’s probably a multi-factor phenomenon which requires an anthropological study for a serious answer. (Good luck trying to get the necessary access to study them.) My guess for one factor in this, is that they have more money than they know what to do with.

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      18 days ago

      It’s a pretty clear humble-brag, no? The launch was only botched because people loved the previous personality; it’s an estimate of how much people care about the product and how much price gouging they could do later.

      No it wasn’t good for OpenAI. But I doubt it changed many investor minds.

    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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      18 days ago

      He’s saying the launch was done badly because some users are in love with GPT-4 and it should not be removed. From a point of view of a investor having people addicted to your product is a good thing.

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      18 days ago

      Don’t they have enough?!? How about they fix and optimize their fancy autocompletion software instead?

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        They took a path they believed would develop into something, and it’s a narrow alley they can’t turn around in. They have to keep going with more compute and power to continue the chase. Thing is, everyone else seemingly thought they were onto something and followed as well, so they’re all in the same predicament where reversing course is suicide. So they hope they can keep selling the dream a bit longer until something happens.

        To be fair, it’s a lot more than just autocomplete. But it’s a lot less than what they wanted by now too.

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          vibe innovation, they are the ones that think AI will be innovative in science by spontaneous generating of new science discoveries, without “researchers, labs, papers”

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            I have seen some people talk like that, and it strikes me as a religion. There’s euphoria, zeal, hope. To them AGI is coming to usher in heaven on earth. Singularity is like rupture.

            Sam Altman is one of the preachers of this religion.

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        18 days ago

        Fix and optimize? Thats way harder than using VC money to buy more things.

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        Don’t they have enough?!?

        No no, it’s just 1 more data center bro, then we’ll fix the hallucinations, promise bro!

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      18 days ago

      Because they already know that once the AI shitbubble bursts, they will switch all the GPUs to start mining Bitcoin and keep grifting the mouth breathers believing all these horseshit.

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        17 days ago

        moving back to CRYPTO after it already crashed, and only people investing in it are the ones that are easily scammed; conservatives,old people.

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    18 days ago

    Just a few more bucks bro! I swear then it will be the revolutionary “AI” we promised it to be.

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      *Few more billion.

      I sometimes wonder if silicon valley tech businesses in general will take a reputation hit with investors when this bubble bursts, it’s gonna be a doozy.

      But then I remember how many greedy idiots there are out there pumping money into grifts in the hope of The Big Win, and my expectations of consequences are tempered.

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    18 days ago

    It annoys me that Chat GPT flat out lies to you when it doesn’t know the answer, and doesn’t have any system in place to admit it isn’t sure about something. It just makes it up and tells you like it’s fact.

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      18 days ago

      LLMs don’t have any awareness of their internal state, so there’s no way for them to see something as a gap of knowledge.

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        Took me ages to understand this. I’d thought "If an AI doesn’t know something, why not just say so?“

        The answer is: that wouldn’t make sense because an LLM doesn’t know ANYTHING

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        Wouldn’t it make sense for an ai to provide a confidence level though?

        I’ve got 3 million bits of info on this topic but only 4 of them lead to this solution. Confidence level =1.5%

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          It doesn’t have “3 million bits of info” on a specific topic, or even if it did, it wouldn’t be able to directly measure it. It’s worth reading a bit about how LLMs work behind the hood, because although somewhat dense if you’re new to the concepts, you come out knowing a lot more about what to expect when using them, what the limitations actually are and how to use them better if you decide to go that route.

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      It doesn‘t know that it doesn‘t know because it doesn‘t actually know anything. Most models are trained on posts from the internet like this one where people rarely ever just chime in to admit they don‘t have an answer anyway. If you don‘t know something you either silently search the web for an answer or ask.

      So since users are the ones asking ChatGPT, the LLM mimics the role of a person that knows the answer. It only makes sense AI is a „confidently wrong“ powerhouse.

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      And depending on how OpenAI tweaked it this time it will either realize its mistake after being made aware of it or double down even harder on it.

      I only use it for coding and it once told me my code not working was due to a bug in Webkit, so I asked it which bug specifically. It created links to bug reports but rewrote the titles of them. So initially it looked like it had numerous sources that backed up its statement but when I clicked on them those were bugs about totally different things.

      It would not back down even after I specifically told it “You just made all of this shit up and even rewrote the titles” and got stuck in a loop of “I’m sorry, but you’re wrong and I am 100% sure I haven’t made a mistake”.

      Kinda creepy. Especially when you think about the system rewriting reality when it comes to much more important things. Let’s just reinvent some history, that would be a good idea, right?

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        I sometimes approach this like I do with students. Using your example, I’d ask it to restate the source, then ask it to read the title of that source directly. If it’s correct, I might ask it to briefly summarize what the source article covers. Then I would ask it to restate what it told me about the source earlier, and to explain where the inconsistency lies. Usually by this time, the AI is accurately pointing out flaws in its prior logic. At that point I ask again if it is 100% sure it didn’t make a mistake, and it might actually concede to having been wrong. Then I tell it to remember how and why it was wrong to avoid similar errors in the future. I don’t know if it actually works, but it makes me feel better about it.

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    your company doesnt look like it has a trillion. maybe apple , google can expand a little, or nvidia, but they surely arent going to build more.

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    18 days ago

    Besides helping students cheat. What does AI actually do? It gets answers wrong. It gets facts wrong, foreign countries are actively feeding its training algorithm wrong info [Russia]. It almost like the old birds that were mystified by landing on the moon are still chasing that American success high.

    Spend your money if you want. Life in america is not gonna get better with this.

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      You can be assured that it’s not just Russia and China feeding it garbage. There is a vast amount of propaganda in all forms of media that AI is trained on, and a lot likely originates from the west.

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        the vast majority comes from russia though, the west has a ton on specific niches. propaganda in the us, somewhat easier to figure out because its obvious(in the form of cinema, and movies, and shows) plus constant adoration for military is another.

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          Elon turned Grok into Mecha-Hitler.

          Trump is telling the Smithsonian museum to ignore slavery, or to cover slavery as a positive.

          The domestic appetite for propaganda is huge. Prager U is American.

          Let’s not center foreign countries when we have so much work to do at home.

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    Nah, it’s good that they ripped off that bandaid. Parasocial AI relationships are terrible.

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    18 days ago

    Sam Altman admits Rambling meth dealer ‘totally screwed up’ its super meth launch and says the company will spend trillions of dollars on data centers

    I love my AI hype word replacement script