for the average user.

So we are talking about an average user, who

• fully understands the appeal of a degoogled Phone
• Willingly spends extra money for a fairphone
• is able to migrate away from google services to /e/'s services
• Is willing and able to troubleshoot any problems that MicroG has
• is willing to fix not working banking apps
• but somehow can’t use a simple web installer from Calyx

Tell me, is this average user in the room with us right now?

Everything works out of the boy.

So does (and does not) with Calix or Graphene

Buy a Pixel.

I think you don’t get what I’m talking about.

-It takes a base level of understanding why you would buy a Fairphone (or any degoogled phone)

• it takes a base level of understanding phones to be able to use a degoogled one
• If you already have that knowledge, you might as well just take an extra 5 minutes and use the web installer for calyx since it is literally the same AND has less vendor lockin than /e/

Edit: You want an average user friendly ROM? Just use Lineage for gods sake.

there is still some goggle code in that.

But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.

I mean, you could use CalyxOS

It dosent have such things as 2 factor pin auth for fingerprint, but its the closest to Graphene

/e/ has built in privacy features

/e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

is google-free and runs MicroG

So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.

Calling the SPD anything but a luke warm pudding is a lie.

They are literally neither right noir left. They just bend to whatever coqlition they get into.

Why would you waste your energy and manage something yourself when they collect your data anyway?

OK, but why is it a for profit company in the first place?

And why does open source Software like xz, ffmpeg, etc still work without being for profit?

Fucking liberal.

foreign man

Why „foreign man”? Why not „Capitalist”? Or „Megacorporation”?

Foreign people are not the only ones who are fucking you over.

If you want free speech, you gotta free yourself from authorities.