Maple Engineer

In my comment, the problem is actually the physical spaces themselves. Many washrooms, especially those in North America and most especially in the US, provide very little privacy or safety.

The washrooms would need to be redesigned so that the entrances had no doors, so that the sink area was very open, and so that the toilets were located in enclosed, private stalls. Urinals would have to be located out of sight in a separate area, perhaps around a corner.

The issue now is that washrooms are poorly designed and women don’t want to be in a washroom with men. Forcing a small number of trans women to use a washroom with men is no different than forcing cis women to share a washroom with biological men. We need a solution that takes those issues away and well designed gender neutral washrooms are the solution. No one can be excluded.

Labeling me a troll will NOT silence me. If you’re not here to have a good faith discussion, leave.

How does gender neutral washrooms not solve the problem?

Let’s be real, the bathroom itself isn’t the problem. No one is uncomfortable with the physical facilities. So, forcing trans women to use a bathroom with people they aren’t comfortable sharing a bathroom with is bad but forcing cis women to share a bathroom with people they aren’t comfortable sharing a bathroom with is totally ok, right? If the single, ungendered bathroom isn’t the most equal solution then this whole issue isn’t about equality.

EDIT: To be clear, before the extremists inevitably pile on, I am very much for equality and trans right and have been since before most of the current cabal of extremists were born. As a cis man I don’t care who I’m peeing next to but I can understand why a cis woman might have reservations about sharing a bathroom with someone who has as penis.

Yes, that’s the problem. It isn’t the trans women who are often more abused that cis women. The problem is the “alpha male” incel assholes.

Urinals use less water and are much faster if you just have to pee. That’s why there are always long lines at the washroom without them.

As a man I don’t give a shit who is peeing beside me but I understand that women do. A single bathroom with lots of floor to celling stalls with no huge American puritanical anti-privacy gaps and a separate area out of view for urinals would solve the problem. Sit down, stand up, whatever floats your boat. Keep your genitals out of view, wash your hands, and the problem is solved.

How about we have ungendered washrooms and everyone uses the same one?

Aren’t there enough right wing echo bunkers at this point?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

The fucking arrogance. The US sat on its hands for years while western Europe fought for its survival. The US entered the war more than two years after Canada fully committed to the war effort.

Mila Kunis is absolutely gorgeous in this movie. It’s worth a watch just for her.

Valerian was the same. Watch it for Cara Delinvigne if for no other reason.