It’s all relative. If i sit a few meters away from a 50 inch screen, then it’s roughly the same size as a phone screen held 30cm from my face. It’s just a matter of perspective.

The level of detail i can see is the same. My fancy earbuds make the sound quality essentially the same if not better.

The only real difference is i have to hold the phone to watch it.

Well, most people… not me, I have a folding phone with a stand, so for me, i can comfortably put the phone on a table on the stand that’s built into the case and watch from there. Works just fine.

My dude! You were saying 90 and 100, which you haven’t been able to provide any proof for. I showed you literal evidence that you are wrong, and i feel like you are ignoring that. You should accept when you are wrong about something. I absolutely will if you provide evidence to back up a claim

As i stated, multiple times. Yes, 80 dollars is a lot. And arguably too much.

But to bring up the very first thing i said again. It’s just not new.

Admittedly it is more often than not the deluxe versions or 2nd tier of a games release that breaks the 80 dollar barrier but there are absolutely games over the past 5 to 10 years that have cost more than 80 dollars

https://pricespy.co.uk/games-consoles/games/ps5-games/final-fantasy-xvi-deluxe-edition-ps5--p7303985?

https://gamerant.com/most-expensive-steam-games/

Evben retro games had some going for 80 or more (in todays money thats 187 dollars give or take)

https://archive.org/details/RetroGamingProductCatalogs/Diehard GameFan Catalog Issue %233/page/n2/mode/1up?view=theater

Have you seen how much is costs to buy destiny the game? With all of the expansions (which sometimes get “sunsetted” meaning they take the content away as it becomes defunct due to power level shift and game mechanic altereations as well as light level resets)

Depending on where you buy it and what deals are on and if you buy the whole bundle or buy it in stages, it’s anywhere between 150 to 280 dollars. And then that game is riddled with microtransactions.

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/all-dlc/destiny-2?sortBy=relevancy&sortDir=DESC&count=40

So its not new.

I dont think its good, i dont want to spend that much on games. But the outrage is based on a false premise. Thats all i ever argued. And so far you have insulted me, acted condescendingly towards me, basically called me a schill for nintendo.

Yet i have consistently backed up my claims with evidence and repeatedly stated that i dont believe 80 dollars for a game is a fair price.

Please at least acknowledge that you may have come in a bit hot and might have been wrong in your initial claim.

So, assuming you can’t find pricing right now would mean that you are speculating entirely and basing your whole argument on that.

But if you actually google it

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mario-Kart-World-U-S-Version/15940407280

You will find that this physical game is 80 dollars on preorder at walmart.

A further search will show a number of games available for preorder

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-game-preorder-listings-are-live

And if you scroll through (its just a short way down the article, the most expensive game is 80 dollars and the cheapest is 40 dollars.

Does that change anything about you opinion? Now that i have backed up my argument?

Right. So its the willfully ignorant path then?

Come on, mate. How can you be so blind?

And as i said in the other comment. Please show me the 90 or 100 dollar switch 2 games.

But its LOWER than inflation. And its based on misinformation.

Is your argument against nintendo, or all game pricing?

If its all game pricing then i agree with you. Like i said in my “essay” games are too expensive.

If its against nintendo specifically then its not even correct. There are no 100 dollar switch 2 games. There are no 90 dollar switch 2 games. Thats factually incorrect and i implore you to find proof. I will shut my mouth if you do.

80 dollars? Sure. But as i said in my “essay” thats nothing new. And its not exclusive to nintendo.

All i am saying is your rage is misplaced and you need to know your enemy.

In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.

The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.

The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.

Grow up, eh?

So after reading about how, when accou ting for inflation, games are actually cheaper today than they should be. Your whole counter is. “Hur dur, because no, dont write paragraphs, me not read more than 20 seconds. Hur dur” yeah good one…

I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.

The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.

Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.

I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.

What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.

I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.

I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.

I’m sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that’s a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?

If that’s not what you meant, then what did you mean?

Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?

Look into it.

Do you write any other horror stories?

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I dodnt not read it because “reading bores me.” i didn’t read it because i was busy. I have people round digging up my driveway, i have a 7 week old baby and a 5 year old son destroying the house :p i have prep for work and i just did a bit of browsing and saw the post. Felt compelled to comment for a brief break.

Im not sure what you mean by “silly opinion.” Everyone who has been arguing with me has been stating that everyone knows that teslas dont use LiDAR, and thats why this test failed. If everyone knows this, then why did it need proving. It was a pointless test. Did you know: fire is hot and water is wet? Did you know we need to breathe air to live?

No?

Better make an elaborate test, film it, edit the video, make it last long enough to monetise, post it to youtube, and let people write articles about it to post to other websites. All to prove what everyone already knows about a dangerous self driving car that’s been around for 11 years…

I am sorry, i just dont get it. I felt like I was pointing out the obvious in saying that a test that’s tailored to give a specific result, which we already know the result of, is a farcical test. It’s pointless.

Excuse me.

1. Did you write the article? I genuinely wasn’t aiming my comment at you. It was merely commentary on the context that is inferred by the title. I just watched a clip of the car hitting the board. I didn’t read the article, so i specified that i was referring to the article title. Not the author, not the article itself. Because it’s the title that i was commenting on.

2. That wasn’t an 18 wheeler, it was a ground level board with a photorealistic picture that matched the background it was set up against. It wasnt a mural on a wall, or some other illusion with completely different properties. So no, i think this extremely specific set up for this test is unrealistic and is not comparable to actual scientific research, which i dont dispute. I dont dispute the fact that the lack of LiDAR is why teslas have this issue and that an autonomous driving system with only one type of sensor is a bad one. Again. I said i hate elon and tesla. Always have.

All i was saying is that this test, which is designed in a very specific way and produces a very specific result, is pointless. Its like me getting a bucket with a hole in and hypothesising that if i pour in waterz it will leak out of the hole, and then proving that and saying look! A bucket with a hole in leaks water…

That’s fair.

I didn’t intend to give tesla a pass. I hoped that qualifying what i said with a “fuck tesla and fuck elon” would show that.

But i didn’t think about it that way.

In my defense my point was more about saying “what did you expect” the car to do in a test designed to show how a system that is not designed to perform a specific function cant perform that specific function.

We know that self driving is bullshit, especially the tesla brand of it. So what is Mark’s test and video really doing?

But on reflection, i guess there are still a lot of people out there that dont know this stuff, so at the very least, a popular channel like his will go a longway to raising awareness of this sort of flaw.

Fair point. But it doesn’t address the other things i said, really.

But i suppose,based on already getting downvoted, that I’ve got a bad take, either that or people who are downvoting me dont understand i can hate tesla and elon, think their cars are shit and still see that tests like this can be nuanced. The attitude that paints with a broad brush is the type of attitude that got trump elected…

As much as i want to hate on tesla, seeing this, it hardly seems like a fair test.

From the perspective of the car, it’s almost perfectly lined up with the background. it’s a very realistic painting, and any AI that is trained on image data would obviously struggle with this. AI doesn’t have that human component that allows us to infer information based on context. We can see the boarders and know that they dont fit. They shouldn’t be there, so even if the painting is perfectly lines up and looks photo realistic, we can know something is up because its got edges and a frame holding it up.

This test, in the context of the title of this article, relies on a fairly dumb pretense that:

1. Computers think like humans
2. This is a realistic situation that a human driver would find themselves in (or that realistic paintings of very specific roads exist in nature)
3. There is no chance this could be trained out of them. (If it mattered enough to do so)

This doesnt just affect teslas. This affects any car that uses AI assistance for driving.

Having said all that… fuck elon musk and fuck his stupid cars.

Meep meep