Yep, all my smart thermostats are zugbee. No phoning home by design, so I don’t have to worry about missing functionality by not giving them internet connection.

And that goes for almost all my smart home. I only have wifi things when I couldn’t find a realistic zigbee option.

I do NOT want my thermostats to phone home. I don’t see any value of that.

But they are connected to MY smart home system (Hone Assistant), and THAT is accessible from the internet.

I get the remote monitoring and control that I want, and they don’t get any of my data. Perfect!

Or just “1.5 months”.

If it was 46 days, there will (arguably) be times where it’s less than 1.5 months.

I guess the intention is automation that updates every month, leaving you with half a month to fix issues.

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You’re not getting the point.

A: You csn shop there without an account. It’s your own choice. An account has pros and cons, and it’s your choice.

B: I don’t know how it works in US, but in my country a McDonald’s account is a fair deal to me. They pay me a fair price for some personal info. And if I go to McDonald’s and I for any reason feel like they shouldn’t register that particular visit, I just don’t use my account.

C: I want to use Windows, but logging into a Microsoft account does not give me any benefits worth the cons. So I use Windows without a Microsoft account. And it will be annoying to keep track of a “fake” account just for that.

Yep, that’s basically what I have.

I’m ready to buy a factory new car, when I find one where the data is mine.

Yes, but this is not one of those times.

Imagine someone poops on your doorstep, and then removes half of it.

You can say it’s good that they removed some of it, but that’s probably not the point you would want to make.

None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

This is why I don’t have a new car. I’m hoping I get one where I have access to my own data (in eg. Home Assistant), and the manufacturer doesn’t.