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    4 months ago

    And I don’t think so, because what we have gotten addicted to is over reliance on a partner that has never really behaved as one. Now that we have this situation, we are looking around and rediscovering the extent of the influence and power we can have in relations with other actors.

    Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5VYUewImUc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHOSBKgM188

    This is at all possible because USA is in shambles.

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      4 months ago

      I’m not saying this shake-up is not good, I’m saying USA permanently not being an ally would be bad. Obviously we would want to be more independent and strong and less reliable, but that doesn’t mean we need to fight USA over greenland or have permanent trade wars with them or whatever.

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        4 months ago

        I don’t think we will be doing any of that. Also because it takes two to tango and, again, our efforts are best spent elsewhere.

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          4 months ago

          our efforts are best spent elsewhere

          they are not, its not an either-or.

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              I don’t think so, I think I made a point and then you are arguing a different point entirely.

              My point is that having USA, as a RELIABLE partner who DOES NOT have this toxic side (the true face they are showing), would be more beneficial for Europe, than an USA that is working against us. It is quite impossible to have a healthy partnership with any country on earth and that being bad for us somehow. Granted, if its doesn’t make us too dependent on them. But I’m talking about a partner that WOULD NOT be like that.

              There is just no way you disagree with that.

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                4 months ago

                We never had a healthy relationship with the USA in the last 80 years. We have no experience of what you are arguing for, especially not as a United Europe.