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    Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

    That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:

    • Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
    • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
    • Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
    • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Don’t forget

      removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

      runs from people trying to ask them questions

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        If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.

        runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

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      That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

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        They don’t want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.

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      I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.

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      EU is not much better.
      You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
      And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
      Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
      Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.

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      so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?

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      No no, you don’t understand. That doesn’t apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes “strongly condemn” them.

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    Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

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    Translation help from Fascist English to US English:

    • “activist” = a non-politician whose free speech we don’t like
    • “allow all voices to be heard” / “free speech” = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/…
    • “defend […] all Americans” = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven’t jailed yet (subject to change)
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          Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

          That a poor comparison since on x the moderations is about random citizen and not paid employee doing a work for a company that a the end of the day is free to choose how to spent her money

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    Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.

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      The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let’s be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.

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    EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.

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    Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?

    Tell us more about the importance of free speech.

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      It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.

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    As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.

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    Martin: Organized crime?
    Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.

    – Sneakers (1992)

    Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”

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    You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.

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      Seriously. They should do the rest of the world a favour and close itself off from us. That way we won’t dictate what their idiots can and can’t do or say.

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        No please, don’t leave those of us that are rational in here around with the nut jobs. We’re trying to correct course but these people are nuts

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    From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.

    Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they’ve heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.

    In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.

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      There is that.

      American democrats, though, irritated me more until I’ve started noticing Republicans. They have that “parties switched in 1960s” myth (only parties’ ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from “progressives” of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it’s the same about Republicans, whose “anti-racist” ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today’s projects), and also the “popular party” myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).

      At the same time the “free speech” stuff over there seems to mostly be about “they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth”.

      Not sure it’s entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven’t lived in the US.