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  • You are the one who is lying by parroting western propaganda.

    Russia was not involved at first. At first it was simply protests. They were then dispersed by the Ukrainian military. Only when Donbass and Luhansk formed their own governments and militias did Russia start supplying equipment and sending volunteers.

    Up until the 2022 invasion, it was still a civil war with increasingly heavier support by Russia for the breakaway regions.

    And this is exactly what was their pre-text for the invasion. “Protecting” the ethnic Russians in those breakaway states and those under Ukrainian military rule.

    If you do not believe any of this, you’re free to lookup videos of the protests in 2014. There are plenty of videos still available showing the protesters in most prominently Donetsk and Odessa.

    Also spheres of influence is not an invention by Putin. This is how the world has worked for a long time. We had the cold war spheres of influence, before that during the interregnum of thr world wars, countries did end up shifting and finally aligning themselves with great powers again. The last stroke were the spheres established by the Molotov-Ribbentropp treaty. And before WW1 there were certainly arguable also spheres of influence across both Europe and the colonies of the great powers.

    And lastly no, nothing of this has anything to do with an ideological struggle. We’re not in the cold war anymore. The whole world runs on capitalist economies with republican systems (save for the constitutional monarchies and very few last absolute monarchies). There is no ideological struggle between more authoritarian and more liberal ones. The only struggle there is, is that over spheres, markets, soft power. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has not single thing to do with democracy vs authoritarianism. Russian ultranationalists do not lead the nation. Even in the worst case scenario Russia would annex a part of Ukraine and install a puppet regime over the rest. Ending Ukraine as a nation is neither feasible nor a goal for Putin and the government. The same way that Belarus keeps existing as a nation.



  • That is not reality.

    1. 2014 did not turn Ukraine into any more of a democracy. Ukraine has as previously switched between pro-Russian and pro-Western leaders. The 2014 revolution was simply an end to that with a pro-Western win (for now).

    2. Russia invaded Crime and annexed it in 2014 without military conflict between the sides. The actual war between Russia and Ukraine started only 2022.

    3. The reason for Russia’s invasion had nothing to do with democracy and internal politics in Russia. The reasons were first maintaining their naval bases on Crime and with that possible domination of the Black Sea. Then not wanting a pro-Western government ruling in Ukraine, preferring a pro-Russian one. After the war started another goal of directly annexing eastern parts of Ukraine became a reason. Ukraine gave them a simple pre-text for this invasion and annexation of territories by militarily cracking down on protests that continued in Eastern Ukraine after the Maiden revolution.

    The conflict has nothing to do with political systems or ideological. It’s a conflict of spheres of influence and control over neighbouring countries.